Juice by the Glass

We juice “on-demand” with a Zummo commercial centrifugal juicer. I have a great sign that explains the benefits of cold-pressed vs. centrifugal, but some people are stuck on wanting it to be juiced in front of them. We have a buffet style cooler next to the on-demand juicer where we can juice our recipes and serve in a glass.

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We definitely try to convert those folks over to our bottled cold-pressed juice made on the X-1.

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Hi Charlie,

Do have any pictures or design recommendations for the counter with a drain border for a quick clean on the X-1 mini. Thanks

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Here are a couple sketches my friend kenny lao did. In this example there is a refrigerator underneath to store produce. There’s also a trash bin to toss the juice pulp for composting.

The idea is that the whole table is made of stainless and has a sprayer and a drain built in, so everything can be washed down right in place without taking it to a sink.

I had our designer Chris draw a similar table so I could get one custom fabricated, but having trouble getting a fab shop to quote the project for me. This is a more basic table without a fridge but still has the sprayer and a drain.

Note that the top is pitched slightly so the water will drain.

If you want the PDF of this drawing let me know and I can send it to you.

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Thank you, Charlie!

I will look deeper into this, and I want to research my options for what is on the market. This sketch sparked some other ideas about the workflow of the kitchen. This drawing was extremely helpful.

Thanks
David

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We offer a Build Your Own Juice option for customers that want it made in front of them. I found an individual, small batch cold-pressed juice machine that is NSF. It is the Ceado CP-150. We have had great success with it and we charge a $2 premium for this option due to the labor involved. We found out it is important to manage customer’s expectations and tell them that the process does take a few minutes, more so than a centrifugal juicer.

The ceado is not a press, so althouth they refer to it as a cold press juicer I don’t think that’s correct. The product it makes is very different than the juice made on a real press. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with juice made on a “slow juicer” but it shouldn’t be referred to as a cold-press in my opinion.

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For the sake of real cold pressed juices and companies that work hard to make them…PLEASE do not refer to that juicer and the juice is makes as “cold pressed”.

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How is the Ceado CP-150 not a cold pressing machine?

Because there is no press. It uses an auger and grinds the produce and still adds heat and oxygen that a true cold press juicer does not.

There is no heat differential, as a condition of my purchase was to measure the temperature from the produced juice. It is the same heat variation as the X-1 Mini, which is to say negligible. It has a 70 RPM versus your standard Breville unit of 6,500 RPM or higher, which is a difference of 2 orders of magnitude, thus much higher heat generation.
It may not have moving platens in the traditional cold-pressed juicer, so the “pressed” aspect of the machine may be incorrect, but one could make the case that the augur action in combination with the mesh extracts juice in a pressing action.

I feel the juice from a real press is superior compared to an auger type in taste and mouth-feel, but I realize I have a built-in natural bias because of my family business.

In the end, fresh juice is still fresh juice no matter how it’s made.

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Would you please send me a pdf of the table design?

goodnature work station 051018.pdf (537.1 KB)

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I would just like to congratulate Tom @VirtueJuiceBar , founder of Virtue Juice Bar for pulling this off. They have been open for a couple days now doing made-to-order juice on two X-1 Minis seems to be working well.

I spent a day with them in Vacaville recently before they opened and it’s really a nice operation. Nice job Tom! Their instagram: https://www.instagram.com/virtuejuice/

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Many thanks Charlie! We’re closing in on our first 30 days and I’m just coming up for air. Yes! Our process to make cp juice by the glass, made to order is working well. Juice continues to be our leading category in sales. Looking forward to sharing more with everyone at JuiceCon 2! It’s going to be here before we know it - can’t wait!

Tom

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I believe Liquiteria has done this for years (Pressed and offered Centrifugal). Personally I don’t want to store added Organic Produce for this “made to order” concept. I might reconsider when GoodNature builds the X-1/2 to do just that at the bar. But until then why would we want to make an inferior juice to Cold Pressed?

Hey @rich Virtue is doing made-to-order juice on the Goodnature X-1 Mini. So it’s not inferior juice. The X-1 Mini is basically a X-1/2

Edit: Sorry I realized just now that you were replying to a different post above.

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I understand this may be a bit late to this conversation, however, I have worked for a juice business that uses Norwalk Juicers for made to order juices to quite some success (and then use larger X1 type machines for wholesale etc). I am creating my own juice business on this plan as well. Although it must be said that the Norwalks are not meant for commercial juicing and long periods of juicing at a time. Anyone else been using them? or any feedback on them at all?

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The norwalk is a huge pain to use. It would be very difficult to run a profitable made to order juice business with it. And like you said, it is not rated for commercial use. Most health departments will not approve its use since it doesn’t have NSF certification.

Definitely go for the goodnature M-1 over the norwalk. The M-1 is specifically made for made-to-order pressed juice in a commercial environment.

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